OT: Rambo IV (John Rambo) Plot Synopsis

[Rob Arndt]

Vietnam veteran John Rambo (Sylvester Stallone) has survived many
harrowing ordeals in his lifetime and has since withdrawn into a
simple and secluded existence in Bangkok, where he spends his time
salvaging old PT boats and tanks for scrap metal. Even though he is
looking to avoid trouble, trouble has a way of finding him. A group of
Christian human rights missionaries, led by Michael Burnett and Sarah
Miller, approach Rambo with the desire to rent his boat to travel up
the river to Burma. For over fifty years, Burma has been like a war
zone. The Karen people of the region, who consist of peasants and
farmers, have endured brutally oppressive rule from the murderous
Burmese military and have been struggling for survival every single
day. This is the time when medical assistance and general support from
the Christian missionaries is needed most. After some consideration,
and due to insistence from his mentor, former military man Ed
Baumgartner, Rambo accepts the offer and takes Michael, Sarah, and the
rest of the missionaries up the river. When the missionaries finally
arrive at the Karen village, they are ambushed by the sadistic Major
Pa Tee Tint and a slew of Burmese army men. A portion of the villagers
and missionaries are tortured and viciously murdered, while Tint and
his men hold the remainder captive. News soon reaches the minister in
charge of the mission and with the help of Ed Baumgartner he employs
Rambo to lead a rescue effort. With five young and highly diverse
mercenaries at his disposal, Rambo has to travel back up the river and
liberate the survivors from the clutches of Major Tint in what may be
one of his deadliest missions ever

Written by www.stallonezone.com

Slated for May 25, 2008

Rob

p.s. Originally titled "Rambo IV: The Serpent's Eye" after second re-
write. First original theme was Stallone's independent "Rumors of War"
script about a military communication's expert (Stallone) that
discovers Osama bin Laden's transmissions and leads to his capture/
death. Stallone submitted the script, but the studio wanted him to
reprise the Rambo character with an offer of $40 mil. He then went
back to write the new script set in Afghanistan and Pakistan with
filming due for Mexico, but the storyline changed since in that draft
Rambo had a wife and daughter (who was to be kidnapped by Al Qaida).
It was too implausible so then came "Serpent's Eye" which is now "John
Rambo" following the "Rocky Balboa" trend.

[Typhoon502]

Post by Rob Arndt
Vietnam veteran John Rambo (Sylvester Stallone) has survived many
harrowing ordeals in his lifetime and has since withdrawn into a
simple and secluded existence in Bangkok, where he spends his time
salvaging old PT boats and tanks for scrap metal. Even though he is
looking to avoid trouble, trouble has a way of finding him. A group of
Christian human rights missionaries, led by Michael Burnett and Sarah
Miller, approach Rambo with the desire to rent his boat to travel up
the river to Burma. For over fifty years, Burma has been like a war
zone. The Karen people of the region, who consist of peasants and
farmers, have endured brutally oppressive rule from the murderous
Burmese military and have been struggling for survival every single
day. This is the time when medical assistance and general support from
the Christian missionaries is needed most. After some consideration,
and due to insistence from his mentor, former military man Ed
Baumgartner, Rambo accepts the offer and takes Michael, Sarah, and the
rest of the missionaries up the river. When the missionaries finally
arrive at the Karen village, they are ambushed by the sadistic Major
Pa Tee Tint and a slew of Burmese army men. A portion of the villagers
and missionaries are tortured and viciously murdered, while Tint and
his men hold the remainder captive. News soon reaches the minister in
charge of the mission and with the help of Ed Baumgartner he employs
Rambo to lead a rescue effort. With five young and highly diverse
mercenaries at his disposal, Rambo has to travel back up the river and
liberate the survivors from the clutches of Major Tint in what may be
one of his deadliest missions ever
Written bywww.stallonezone.com
Slated for May 25, 2008
Rob
p.s. Originally titled "Rambo IV: The Serpent's Eye" after second re-
write. First original theme was Stallone's independent "Rumors of War"
script about a military communication's expert (Stallone) that
discovers Osama bin Laden's transmissions and leads to his capture/
death. Stallone submitted the script, but the studio wanted him to
reprise the Rambo character with an offer of $40 mil. He then went
back to write the new script set in Afghanistan and Pakistan with
filming due for Mexico, but the storyline changed since in that draft
Rambo had a wife and daughter (who was to be kidnapped by Al Qaida).
It was too implausible so then came "Serpent's Eye" which is now "John
Rambo" following the "Rocky Balboa" trend.

I saw the 3-minute trailer for this...the trailer is R-rated,
incidentally. It's a splatterfest of graphic violence; the first kill
Rambo makes is to behead a gunner on a truckbed, and then Rambo turns
the Ma Deuce onto the driver at point-blank range. The SFX team must
have shot hundreds of pounds of meat out of air cannons during some of
the sequences you see on screen. Heads explode or are chopped off,
throats are torn out, people burn, etc. It'll be interesting to see
the response this gets, because right now, the filmgeeks are going
nuts.

[Rob Arndt]

Post by Typhoon502

Post by Rob Arndt
Vietnam veteran John Rambo (Sylvester Stallone) has survived many
harrowing ordeals in his lifetime and has since withdrawn into a
simple and secluded existence in Bangkok, where he spends his time
salvaging old PT boats and tanks for scrap metal. Even though he is
looking to avoid trouble, trouble has a way of finding him. A group of
Christian human rights missionaries, led by Michael Burnett and Sarah
Miller, approach Rambo with the desire to rent his boat to travel up
the river to Burma. For over fifty years, Burma has been like a war
zone. The Karen people of the region, who consist of peasants and
farmers, have endured brutally oppressive rule from the murderous
Burmese military and have been struggling for survival every single
day. This is the time when medical assistance and general support from
the Christian missionaries is needed most. After some consideration,
and due to insistence from his mentor, former military man Ed
Baumgartner, Rambo accepts the offer and takes Michael, Sarah, and the
rest of the missionaries up the river. When the missionaries finally
arrive at the Karen village, they are ambushed by the sadistic Major
Pa Tee Tint and a slew of Burmese army men. A portion of the villagers
and missionaries are tortured and viciously murdered, while Tint and
his men hold the remainder captive. News soon reaches the minister in
charge of the mission and with the help of Ed Baumgartner he employs
Rambo to lead a rescue effort. With five young and highly diverse
mercenaries at his disposal, Rambo has to travel back up the river and
liberate the survivors from the clutches of Major Tint in what may be
one of his deadliest missions ever
Written bywww.stallonezone.com
Slated for May 25, 2008
Rob
p.s. Originally titled "Rambo IV: The Serpent's Eye" after second re-
write. First original theme was Stallone's independent "Rumors of War"
script about a military communication's expert (Stallone) that
discovers Osama bin Laden's transmissions and leads to his capture/
death. Stallone submitted the script, but the studio wanted him to
reprise the Rambo character with an offer of $40 mil. He then went
back to write the new script set in Afghanistan and Pakistan with
filming due for Mexico, but the storyline changed since in that draft
Rambo had a wife and daughter (who was to be kidnapped by Al Qaida).
It was too implausible so then came "Serpent's Eye" which is now "John
Rambo" following the "Rocky Balboa" trend.

I saw the 3-minute trailer for this...the trailer is R-rated,
incidentally. It's a splatterfest of graphic violence; the first kill
Rambo makes is to behead a gunner on a truckbed, and then Rambo turns
the Ma Deuce onto the driver at point-blank range. The SFX team must
have shot hundreds of pounds of meat out of air cannons during some of
the sequences you see on screen. Heads explode or are chopped off,
throats are torn out, people burn, etc. It'll be interesting to see
the response this gets, because right now, the filmgeeks are going
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I just hope that this new trend in changing tiltes to the name of the
character doesn't stick. They do that in the music business either
with debuts or when the artist is starting to suck and has to self-
title their CDs to see how many loyal fans they have left. Die Hard 4
uses a title (forgot it right now) and both "Indy 4" and Star Trek XI
will.... although I kinda like the sound of "James Tiberius Kirk"!

Rob :)~

[Dan]

Post by Typhoon502

Post by Rob Arndt
Vietnam veteran John Rambo (Sylvester Stallone) has survived many
harrowing ordeals in his lifetime and has since withdrawn into a
simple and secluded existence in Bangkok, where he spends his time
salvaging old PT boats and tanks for scrap metal. Even though he is
looking to avoid trouble, trouble has a way of finding him. A group of
Christian human rights missionaries, led by Michael Burnett and Sarah
Miller, approach Rambo with the desire to rent his boat to travel up
the river to Burma. For over fifty years, Burma has been like a war
zone. The Karen people of the region, who consist of peasants and
farmers, have endured brutally oppressive rule from the murderous
Burmese military and have been struggling for survival every single
day. This is the time when medical assistance and general support from
the Christian missionaries is needed most. After some consideration,
and due to insistence from his mentor, former military man Ed
Baumgartner, Rambo accepts the offer and takes Michael, Sarah, and the
rest of the missionaries up the river. When the missionaries finally
arrive at the Karen village, they are ambushed by the sadistic Major
Pa Tee Tint and a slew of Burmese army men. A portion of the villagers
and missionaries are tortured and viciously murdered, while Tint and
his men hold the remainder captive. News soon reaches the minister in
charge of the mission and with the help of Ed Baumgartner he employs
Rambo to lead a rescue effort. With five young and highly diverse
mercenaries at his disposal, Rambo has to travel back up the river and
liberate the survivors from the clutches of Major Tint in what may be
one of his deadliest missions ever
Written bywww.stallonezone.com
Slated for May 25, 2008
Rob
p.s. Originally titled "Rambo IV: The Serpent's Eye" after second re-
write. First original theme was Stallone's independent "Rumors of War"
script about a military communication's expert (Stallone) that
discovers Osama bin Laden's transmissions and leads to his capture/
death. Stallone submitted the script, but the studio wanted him to
reprise the Rambo character with an offer of $40 mil. He then went
back to write the new script set in Afghanistan and Pakistan with
filming due for Mexico, but the storyline changed since in that draft
Rambo had a wife and daughter (who was to be kidnapped by Al Qaida).
It was too implausible so then came "Serpent's Eye" which is now "John
Rambo" following the "Rocky Balboa" trend.

I saw the 3-minute trailer for this...the trailer is R-rated,
incidentally. It's a splatterfest of graphic violence; the first kill
Rambo makes is to behead a gunner on a truckbed, and then Rambo turns
the Ma Deuce onto the driver at point-blank range. The SFX team must
have shot hundreds of pounds of meat out of air cannons during some of
the sequences you see on screen. Heads explode or are chopped off,
throats are torn out, people burn, etc. It'll be interesting to see
the response this gets, because right now, the filmgeeks are going
nuts.

[Dan]

Post by Typhoon502

Post by Rob Arndt
Vietnam veteran John Rambo (Sylvester Stallone) has survived many
harrowing ordeals in his lifetime and has since withdrawn into a
simple and secluded existence in Bangkok, where he spends his time
salvaging old PT boats and tanks for scrap metal. Even though he is
looking to avoid trouble, trouble has a way of finding him. A group of
Christian human rights missionaries, led by Michael Burnett and Sarah
Miller, approach Rambo with the desire to rent his boat to travel up
the river to Burma. For over fifty years, Burma has been like a war
zone. The Karen people of the region, who consist of peasants and
farmers, have endured brutally oppressive rule from the murderous
Burmese military and have been struggling for survival every single
day. This is the time when medical assistance and general support from
the Christian missionaries is needed most. After some consideration,
and due to insistence from his mentor, former military man Ed
Baumgartner, Rambo accepts the offer and takes Michael, Sarah, and the
rest of the missionaries up the river. When the missionaries finally
arrive at the Karen village, they are ambushed by the sadistic Major
Pa Tee Tint and a slew of Burmese army men. A portion of the villagers
and missionaries are tortured and viciously murdered, while Tint and
his men hold the remainder captive. News soon reaches the minister in
charge of the mission and with the help of Ed Baumgartner he employs
Rambo to lead a rescue effort. With five young and highly diverse
mercenaries at his disposal, Rambo has to travel back up the river and
liberate the survivors from the clutches of Major Tint in what may be
one of his deadliest missions ever
Written bywww.stallonezone.com
Slated for May 25, 2008
Rob
p.s. Originally titled "Rambo IV: The Serpent's Eye" after second re-
write. First original theme was Stallone's independent "Rumors of War"
script about a military communication's expert (Stallone) that
discovers Osama bin Laden's transmissions and leads to his capture/
death. Stallone submitted the script, but the studio wanted him to
reprise the Rambo character with an offer of $40 mil. He then went
back to write the new script set in Afghanistan and Pakistan with
filming due for Mexico, but the storyline changed since in that draft
Rambo had a wife and daughter (who was to be kidnapped by Al Qaida).
It was too implausible so then came "Serpent's Eye" which is now "John
Rambo" following the "Rocky Balboa" trend.

I saw the 3-minute trailer for this...the trailer is R-rated,
incidentally. It's a splatterfest of graphic violence; the first kill
Rambo makes is to behead a gunner on a truckbed, and then Rambo turns
the Ma Deuce onto the driver at point-blank range. The SFX team must
have shot hundreds of pounds of meat out of air cannons during some of
the sequences you see on screen. Heads explode or are chopped off,
throats are torn out, people burn, etc. It'll be interesting to see
the response this gets, because right now, the filmgeeks are going
nuts.

That kind of stuff usually means there's no plot. I haven't seen the
movie and won't for the simple reason gore doesn't interest me. As a
matter fact I have yet to see a war movie that gets the special effects
right.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[Rob Arndt]

Post by Typhoon502

Post by Rob Arndt
Vietnam veteran John Rambo (Sylvester Stallone) has survived many
harrowing ordeals in his lifetime and has since withdrawn into a
simple and secluded existence in Bangkok, where he spends his time
salvaging old PT boats and tanks for scrap metal. Even though he is
looking to avoid trouble, trouble has a way of finding him. A group of
Christian human rights missionaries, led by Michael Burnett and Sarah
Miller, approach Rambo with the desire to rent his boat to travel up
the river to Burma. For over fifty years, Burma has been like a war
zone. The Karen people of the region, who consist of peasants and
farmers, have endured brutally oppressive rule from the murderous
Burmese military and have been struggling for survival every single
day. This is the time when medical assistance and general support from
the Christian missionaries is needed most. After some consideration,
and due to insistence from his mentor, former military man Ed
Baumgartner, Rambo accepts the offer and takes Michael, Sarah, and the
rest of the missionaries up the river. When the missionaries finally
arrive at the Karen village, they are ambushed by the sadistic Major
Pa Tee Tint and a slew of Burmese army men. A portion of the villagers
and missionaries are tortured and viciously murdered, while Tint and
his men hold the remainder captive. News soon reaches the minister in
charge of the mission and with the help of Ed Baumgartner he employs
Rambo to lead a rescue effort. With five young and highly diverse
mercenaries at his disposal, Rambo has to travel back up the river and
liberate the survivors from the clutches of Major Tint in what may be
one of his deadliest missions ever
Written bywww.stallonezone.com
Slated for May 25, 2008
Rob
p.s. Originally titled "Rambo IV: The Serpent's Eye" after second re-
write. First original theme was Stallone's independent "Rumors of War"
script about a military communication's expert (Stallone) that
discovers Osama bin Laden's transmissions and leads to his capture/
death. Stallone submitted the script, but the studio wanted him to
reprise the Rambo character with an offer of $40 mil. He then went
back to write the new script set in Afghanistan and Pakistan with
filming due for Mexico, but the storyline changed since in that draft
Rambo had a wife and daughter (who was to be kidnapped by Al Qaida).
It was too implausible so then came "Serpent's Eye" which is now "John
Rambo" following the "Rocky Balboa" trend.

I saw the 3-minute trailer for this...the trailer is R-rated,
incidentally. It's a splatterfest of graphic violence; the first kill
Rambo makes is to behead a gunner on a truckbed, and then Rambo turns
the Ma Deuce onto the driver at point-blank range. The SFX team must
have shot hundreds of pounds of meat out of air cannons during some of
the sequences you see on screen. Heads explode or are chopped off,
throats are torn out, people burn, etc. It'll be interesting to see
the response this gets, because right now, the filmgeeks are going
nuts.

� �That kind of stuff usually means there's no plot. I haven't seen the
movie and won't for the simple reason gore doesn't interest me. As a
matter fact I have yet to see a war movie that gets the special effects
right.
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Just out of curiosity, did you even bother to read the plot synopsis I
posted? Or do you just blindly answer the last reply?

Rob

As for real effects why don't you watch a real Holocaust documentary,
and NO I don't mean "Schindler's List". Why would anyone want that
level of realism in war films anyway? Wanna give some WW2 or Vietnam
vet a stroke? Try watching the Elijah Wood movie "Everything is
Illuminated", or Corrie Ten Boom's true story "The Hiding Place", or
the excellent Hitler German drama "Downfall". All deal with WW2 and
its consequences.
For other WW2 dramas try the Czech film "Deep Blue World", the French
"Strafed", "Battle of Britain", "Hope and Glory", the German "Das
Boot" extended edition, etc... there is so much out there to choose
from. I watched both 'Bat-21" and "Flight of th Intruder" back-to-back
a few days ago... and everyone loves Kubrick's eternal "Doctor
Strangelove"!

[Dan]

Post by Rob Arndt

Post by Typhoon502

Post by Rob Arndt
Vietnam veteran John Rambo (Sylvester Stallone) has survived many
harrowing ordeals in his lifetime and has since withdrawn into a
simple and secluded existence in Bangkok, where he spends his time
salvaging old PT boats and tanks for scrap metal. Even though he is
looking to avoid trouble, trouble has a way of finding him. A group of
Christian human rights missionaries, led by Michael Burnett and Sarah
Miller, approach Rambo with the desire to rent his boat to travel up
the river to Burma. For over fifty years, Burma has been like a war
zone. The Karen people of the region, who consist of peasants and
farmers, have endured brutally oppressive rule from the murderous
Burmese military and have been struggling for survival every single
day. This is the time when medical assistance and general support from
the Christian missionaries is needed most. After some consideration,
and due to insistence from his mentor, former military man Ed
Baumgartner, Rambo accepts the offer and takes Michael, Sarah, and the
rest of the missionaries up the river. When the missionaries finally
arrive at the Karen village, they are ambushed by the sadistic Major
Pa Tee Tint and a slew of Burmese army men. A portion of the villagers
and missionaries are tortured and viciously murdered, while Tint and
his men hold the remainder captive. News soon reaches the minister in
charge of the mission and with the help of Ed Baumgartner he employs
Rambo to lead a rescue effort. With five young and highly diverse
mercenaries at his disposal, Rambo has to travel back up the river and
liberate the survivors from the clutches of Major Tint in what may be
one of his deadliest missions ever
Written bywww.stallonezone.com
Slated for May 25, 2008
Rob
p.s. Originally titled "Rambo IV: The Serpent's Eye" after second re-
write. First original theme was Stallone's independent "Rumors of War"
script about a military communication's expert (Stallone) that
discovers Osama bin Laden's transmissions and leads to his capture/
death. Stallone submitted the script, but the studio wanted him to
reprise the Rambo character with an offer of $40 mil. He then went
back to write the new script set in Afghanistan and Pakistan with
filming due for Mexico, but the storyline changed since in that draft
Rambo had a wife and daughter (who was to be kidnapped by Al Qaida).
It was too implausible so then came "Serpent's Eye" which is now "John
Rambo" following the "Rocky Balboa" trend.

I saw the 3-minute trailer for this...the trailer is R-rated,
incidentally. It's a splatterfest of graphic violence; the first kill
Rambo makes is to behead a gunner on a truckbed, and then Rambo turns
the Ma Deuce onto the driver at point-blank range. The SFX team must
have shot hundreds of pounds of meat out of air cannons during some of
the sequences you see on screen. Heads explode or are chopped off,
throats are torn out, people burn, etc. It'll be interesting to see
the response this gets, because right now, the filmgeeks are going
nuts.

� �That kind of stuff usually means there's no plot. I haven't seen the
movie and won't for the simple reason gore doesn't interest me. As a
matter fact I have yet to see a war movie that gets the special effects
right.
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Just out of curiosity, did you even bother to read the plot synopsis I
posted? Or do you just blindly answer the last reply?
Rob
As for real effects why don't you watch a real Holocaust documentary,
and NO I don't mean "Schindler's List". Why would anyone want that
level of realism in war films anyway? Wanna give some WW2 or Vietnam
vet a stroke? Try watching the Elijah Wood movie "Everything is
Illuminated", or Corrie Ten Boom's true story "The Hiding Place", or
the excellent Hitler German drama "Downfall". All deal with WW2 and
its consequences.
For other WW2 dramas try the Czech film "Deep Blue World", the French
"Strafed", "Battle of Britain", "Hope and Glory", the German "Das
Boot" extended edition, etc... there is so much out there to choose
from. I watched both 'Bat-21" and "Flight of th Intruder" back-to-back
a few days ago... and everyone loves Kubrick's eternal "Doctor
Strangelove"!

Actually I ignored your "synopsis" since it was way off topic and
your history of film review is abysmal at best.

You may enjoy watching Holocaust videos, I don't doubt you get some
kind of perverse sexual pleasure from them, but I don't. As for the rest
of your "suggestions" don't waste your time. I do not enjoy war movies.
I will let you figure out why.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[Rob Arndt]

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Post by Dan

Post by Typhoon502

Post by Rob Arndt
Vietnam veteran John Rambo (Sylvester Stallone) has survived many
harrowing ordeals in his lifetime and has since withdrawn into a
simple and secluded existence in Bangkok, where he spends his time
salvaging old PT boats and tanks for scrap metal. Even though he is
looking to avoid trouble, trouble has a way of finding him. A group of
Christian human rights missionaries, led by Michael Burnett and Sarah
Miller, approach Rambo with the desire to rent his boat to travel up
the river to Burma. For over fifty years, Burma has been like a war
zone. The Karen people of the region, who consist of peasants and
farmers, have endured brutally oppressive rule from the murderous
Burmese military and have been struggling for survival every single
day. This is the time when medical assistance and general support from
the Christian missionaries is needed most. After some consideration,
and due to insistence from his mentor, former military man Ed
Baumgartner, Rambo accepts the offer and takes Michael, Sarah, and the
rest of the missionaries up the river. When the missionaries finally
arrive at the Karen village, they are ambushed by the sadistic Major
Pa Tee Tint and a slew of Burmese army men. A portion of the villagers
and missionaries are tortured and viciously murdered, while Tint and
his men hold the remainder captive. News soon reaches the minister in
charge of the mission and with the help of Ed Baumgartner he employs
Rambo to lead a rescue effort. With five young and highly diverse
mercenaries at his disposal, Rambo has to travel back up the river and
liberate the survivors from the clutches of Major Tint in what may be
one of his deadliest missions ever
Written bywww.stallonezone.com
Slated for May 25, 2008
Rob
p.s. Originally titled "Rambo IV: The Serpent's Eye" after second re-
write. First original theme was Stallone's independent "Rumors of War"
script about a military communication's expert (Stallone) that
discovers Osama bin Laden's transmissions and leads to his capture/
death. Stallone submitted the script, but the studio wanted him to
reprise the Rambo character with an offer of $40 mil. He then went
back to write the new script set in Afghanistan and Pakistan with
filming due for Mexico, but the storyline changed since in that draft
Rambo had a wife and daughter (who was to be kidnapped by Al Qaida).
It was too implausible so then came "Serpent's Eye" which is now "John
Rambo" following the "Rocky Balboa" trend.

I saw the 3-minute trailer for this...the trailer is R-rated,
incidentally. It's a splatterfest of graphic violence; the first kill
Rambo makes is to behead a gunner on a truckbed, and then Rambo turns
the Ma Deuce onto the driver at point-blank range. The SFX team must
have shot hundreds of pounds of meat out of air cannons during some of
the sequences you see on screen. Heads explode or are chopped off,
throats are torn out, people burn, etc. It'll be interesting to see
the response this gets, because right now, the filmgeeks are going
nuts.

That kind of stuff usually means there's no plot. I haven't seen the
movie and won't for the simple reason gore doesn't interest me. As a
matter fact I have yet to see a war movie that gets the special effects
right.
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Just out of curiosity, did you even bother to read the plot synopsis I
posted? Or do you just blindly answer the last reply?
Rob
As for real effects why don't you watch a real Holocaust documentary,
and NO I don't mean "Schindler's List". Why would anyone want that
level of realism in war films anyway? Wanna give some WW2 or Vietnam
vet a stroke? Try watching the Elijah Wood movie "Everything is
Illuminated", or Corrie Ten Boom's true story "The Hiding Place", or
the excellent Hitler German drama "Downfall". All deal with WW2 and
its consequences.
For other WW2 �dramas try the Czech film "Deep Blue World", the French
"Strafed", "Battle of Britain", "Hope and Glory", the German "Das
Boot" extended edition, etc... there is so much out there to choose
from. I watched both 'Bat-21" and "Flight of th Intruder" back-to-back
a few days ago... and everyone loves Kubrick's eternal "Doctor
Strangelove"!

� � Actually I ignored your "synopsis" since it was way off topic and
your history of film review is abysmal at best.
� � You may enjoy watching Holocaust videos, I don't doubt you get some
kind of perverse sexual pleasure from them, but I don't. As for the rest
of your "suggestions" don't waste your time. I do not enjoy war movies.
I will let you figure out why.
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Dan,

This is truly mindboggling. YOU bring up that you have yet to see a
war movie with realistic SPFX and THEN say, "I do not enjoy war
movies"! To make matters worse YOU have to throw in some sicko sexual
nonsense which I assure you came out of you and not me, buddy.

My few real holocaust films are part of a wide range of historical
documentaries and are not unique to me. My Rabbi friend not only has a
huge Holocaust film library (which I do not), but loves to watch the
German military films from IHF and war movies as well. War movies are
a genre, like it or not. I do not "love" them, I enjoy a good one at
best- same as the rest of my movies. The Rabbi even has Riefenstahl's
"Triumph of the Will" and "Olympia"- I do not. Any TRUE Nazi would.
Again, so much for sterotypes and false labels.

It disgusts me the way you try to twist other people's words and try
to introduce some form of sexual perversion into a conversation. You
are a warped old man IMHO.

Rob

BTW, the synopsis came from the online source listed in my post, not
me and I did NOT make a review since the film doesn't even come out
for a year! Perhaps you need glasses on top of that frontal labotomy
operation. Or maybe your bedpan is just full.... of shit... like you.

[Dan]

Rob Arndt wrote:
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Post by Rob Arndt
It disgusts me the way you try to twist other people's words and try
to introduce some form of sexual perversion into a conversation.

Amazing, absolutely amazing. You have made all kinds of sexual comments
about others in RAM, myself included, yet you get all bent out of shape
when someone does it to you.

You

Post by Rob Arndt
are a warped old man IMHO.

That description fits you better.

Post by Rob Arndt
Rob

Perhaps you need glasses on top of that frontal labotomy

Post by Rob Arndt
operation. Or maybe your bedpan is just full.... of shit... like you.

This is from a manure salesman with a mouthful of samples?

Look at the bright side, we do have one thing in common; neither of
us is a respected author.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[Herbert Viola]

I was once forced to watch Rambo II a second time against my will. To pass the
time I decided to count how many people rambo kills. I got up to 36 when he
stole a helocopter and started killing people in bunches. I think most comic
books operate at a higher level of maturity than the rambo series, though the
first one was pretty good.


note: it might have been Rambo III.